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They weren't using those for purchasing US goods, so they must have invested in US debt or equities.
This is too narrow. Dollars from cross-border transactions need not be used only for U.S. goods or invested only in U.S. debt/equity; official balance-of-payments categories also include services, income/transfers, deposits, loans, direct investment, derivatives, and reserve assets.
Full reasoning
The "must have invested in US debt or equities" conclusion does not follow from the official categories used in U.S. international accounts.
The Bureau of Economic Analysis says the current account covers not just goods, but also services, primary income, and secondary income. So if foreign firms were not using dollars to buy U.S. goods, they could still be using them for U.S. services or for other current-account transactions.
BEA also says the financial account is broader than just debt and equity. It includes direct investment, portfolio investment, other investment, reserves, and financial derivatives. Within "other investment," BEA specifically lists currency and deposits, loans, insurance technical reserves, and trade credit and advances. So even on the financial side, it is incorrect to say they must have invested only in U.S. debt or equities.
In short, official balance-of-payments definitions show multiple other possibilities besides purchasing U.S. goods or buying U.S. debt/equity, so the sentence overstates what "must" have happened.
3 sources
- U.S. International Transactions and Investment Position Release-Additional Information | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
The current account consists of transactions between U.S. residents and nonresidents in goods, services, primary income, and secondary income.
- U.S. International Transactions and Investment Position Release-Additional Information | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
The financial account consists of transactions ... for direct investment, portfolio investment, other investment, reserves, and financial derivatives other than reserves.
- U.S. International Transactions and Investment Position Release-Additional Information | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
Other investment ... includes ... other equity, currency and deposits, loans, insurance technical reserves, trade credit and advances.
They will want dollars to buy that debt, so they will need to sell goods to get dollars.
Not necessarily. Foreigners can obtain dollars through many channels besides selling goods, including services, income flows, asset sales, deposits, loans, and other financial transactions.
Full reasoning
This sentence is too restrictive about how non-U.S. residents can obtain dollars.
According to the Bureau of Economic Analysis, the current account includes not just trade in goods, but also services, primary income, and secondary income. So foreigners can receive dollars through exports of services or through income flows, not only by selling goods.
And BEA's financial account includes much more than goods trade as well: it records direct investment, portfolio investment, other investment, reserves, and financial derivatives. BEA explicitly lists currency and deposits and loans under "other investment." That means foreigners can also obtain dollar claims through financial transactions rather than by first selling goods.
So the claim that they would "need to sell goods to get dollars" is incorrect under the official accounting categories used for international transactions.
3 sources
- U.S. International Transactions and Investment Position Release-Additional Information | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
The current account consists of transactions between U.S. residents and nonresidents in goods, services, primary income, and secondary income.
- U.S. International Transactions and Investment Position Release-Additional Information | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
The financial account consists of transactions between U.S. residents and nonresidents for direct investment, portfolio investment, other investment, reserves, and financial derivatives other than reserves.
- U.S. International Transactions and Investment Position Release-Additional Information | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
Other investment ... includes ... currency and deposits, loans, insurance technical reserves, trade credit and advances.
the reason we subtract imports from GDP is that they are already part of consumption (C)
Not just consumption. BEA says imports are subtracted because they are embedded across C, I, G, and X, all of which can include imported goods and services.
Full reasoning
This sentence is too narrow about why imports are subtracted in the expenditure formula for GDP.
The Bureau of Economic Analysis explains that M is subtracted from the sum of C, I, G, and X because GDP should count only domestically produced goods and services. BEA further states that personal consumption (C), business investment (I), government expenditures (G), and exports (X) all include expenditures on both domestically produced and imported goods and services.
So imports are not subtracted only because they are already part of consumption (C). They are subtracted because imported goods and services can be embedded across the broader expenditure components, not just consumption.
2 sources
- The Expenditures Approach to Measuring GDP | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
‘M’ is subtracted from the sum of C, I, G, and X to ensure that GDP measures only the value of domestically produced goods and services.
- The Expenditures Approach to Measuring GDP | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)
Personal consumption (C), business investment (I), government expenditures (G), and exports (X) all include expenditures on both domestically produced and imported goods and services.