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by the early 1960s, the project to rip a second Panama canal by detonating a necklace of nuclear bombs was canceled
U.S. studies of (and serious planning for) a new sea-level Panama canal route—including nuclear excavation concepts—continued through the late 1960s, with major reports and termination of field operations occurring around 1969–1970, not “by the early 1960s.”
Full reasoning
The post frames the nuclear-excavation “second Panama canal” idea as already canceled by the early 1960s.
However, authoritative histories of Project Plowshare and the U.S. sea-level canal studies show that the U.S. government’s major sea-level canal study (including evaluation of nuclear excavation) was ordered in 1964, with field work and analysis continuing into 1969–1970:
- Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL) describes that President Lyndon Johnson ordered the study in 1964, and that the subsequent study was published in 1970, effectively shelving the plan based on traffic projections. This directly contradicts the claim that the project was already canceled by the early 1960s.
- GlobalSecurity’s “Sea Level Canal Studies 1964–1970” page likewise states that field operations were terminated in July 1969, data evaluation continued until June 1970, and the commission forwarded its report to the President on November 30, 1970.
So while nuclear canal concepts existed earlier, the key governmental effort to evaluate (including nuclear excavation) was still underway well after the early 1960s, and only wrapped up around 1970.
2 sources
- The Plowshare Program | Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
“In 1964, President Lyndon Johnson ordered a study to determine a site for the construction of a new sea-level canal. The subsequent study, published in 1970… effectively shelving plans for a new sea-level canal.”
- Sea Level Canal Studies 1964-1970 | GlobalSecurity.org
“Field operations were terminated in July 1969, but data evaluation continued until June 1970… This commission terminated its five-year study and forwarded its report to the President on November 30, 1970…”
Microwaves use a device called a magnetron to emit radiation with wavelengths around 5-10 cm, and send it to bounce around the closed chamber where you put your food.
Household microwave ovens are typically operated at 2.45 GHz, which corresponds to a wavelength of about 12.2 cm—outside the stated “5–10 cm” range.
Full reasoning
Domestic microwave ovens overwhelmingly use the ISM-band frequency 2.45 GHz (this is also consistent with standard explanations of microwave oven operation).
A wave at 2.45 GHz has a free-space wavelength of:
- λ = c / f ≈ (3.0×10^8 m/s) / (2.45×10^9 1/s) ≈ 0.122 m ≈ 12.2 cm
That’s not “around 5–10 cm.” (A 10 cm wavelength would correspond to ~3 GHz, and 5 cm to ~6 GHz.) While other microwave heating frequencies exist in some industrial contexts, the post is describing typical microwave oven operation, for which 2.45 GHz (~12.2 cm) is the standard frequency.
2 sources
- EMF-Portal | Microwave oven
“Microwave ovens are operated at 2.45 GHz. For the generation of electromagnetic fields at that operating frequency, magnetrons are used.”
- Microwave oven - Wikipedia
“Microwave ovens use frequencies in one of the ISM (industrial, scientific, medical) bands…” (domestic ovens commonly use 2.45 GHz; see principles/ISM-band discussion).
who just watched Hiroshima on live TV
There was no live U.S. television coverage from Hiroshima in 1945; in fact, the first live telecast from Japan to the U.S. is documented as occurring in 1964.
Full reasoning
The post suggests civilians had “just watched Hiroshima on live TV” (implying live television broadcast of the 1945 bombing).
That is not historically plausible and is contradicted by broadcast history:
- NBC Sports notes that the first live telecast of any kind from Japan to the United States was NBC’s coverage of the 1964 Tokyo Olympics.
- Separately, an excerpt hosted by the ANA Educational Foundation (citing the Television Broadcasters Association) describes how limited U.S. television infrastructure was in summer 1945 (only nine transmitters reaching fewer than 10,000 sets in large U.S. cities), underscoring that “live TV” was in its infancy and not capable of broadcasting a live event from Japan, much less Hiroshima.
Together these sources contradict the notion that people “watched Hiroshima on live TV” in 1945; the first live Japan→U.S. telecast being in 1964 alone is enough to make the 1945 “live TV” claim false.
2 sources
- Recapping the 1964 Summer Olympics from Tokyo | NBC Sports (Apr 9, 2018)
“NBC broadcasted the first live telecast of any kind from Japan to the United States with their coverage of the 1964 Summer Olympics.”
- Brought To You By: Postwar Television | ANA Educational Foundation (book excerpt)
“According to the Television Broadcasters Association, in the summer of 1945 the country’s nine television transmitters were reaching a total of fewer than 10,000 sets…”