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The Eigerwand is the North face of a 14,000 foot peak named "The Eiger".
The Eiger is about 13,015 ft (3,967 m) tall, not 14,000 ft.
Full reasoning
Reliable references list the Eiger’s elevation as 3,967 m (13,015 ft). That makes the post’s description of the Eiger as a “14,000 foot peak” incorrect by roughly 1,000 feet.
- Wikipedia’s Eiger article lists the mountain’s elevation as 3,967 m (13,015 ft).
- National Geographic also describes the Eiger as 13,015-foot.
Therefore, while “Eigerwand” does refer to the Eiger’s north face, the height given in the quoted claim is wrong.
2 sources
- Eiger - Wikipedia
Elevation 3,967 m (13,015 ft).
- Controversial cableway upends mountaineering business at Eiger mountain | National Geographic
Many adventurers reach this 13,015-foot view via the Eiger’s treacherous North Face...
Reinhold Messner, one of the greatest climbers of all time, and the first to summit Everest without oxygen,
The first ascent of Everest without supplemental oxygen was by Reinhold Messner and Peter Habeler together (May 8, 1978), not by Messner alone.
Full reasoning
The post’s wording describes Messner as the first person to summit Everest without supplemental oxygen. But major references describe the feat as a joint first ascent by Reinhold Messner and Peter Habeler on 8 May 1978.
- Guinness World Records lists the “First ascent of Everest without supplementary oxygen” as achieved by Reinhold Messner, Peter Habeler on 08 May 1978.
- Wikipedia’s Messner biography likewise says he made the first oxygenless ascent “along with Peter Habeler.”
So the claim is inaccurate as stated: Messner was one of the first two, not the sole first.
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- First ascent of Everest without supplementary oxygen | Guinness World Records
Who Reinhold Messner, Peter Habeler ... When 08 May 1978 ... made the first successful ascent of Mt Everest without supplemental oxygen.
- Reinhold Messner - Wikipedia
...made the first solo ascent of Mount Everest and, along with Peter Habeler, the first ascent of Everest without supplementary oxygen.
Somehow, after four nights of no sleep, exposure to the wind and rain, and with one good arm, Willy managed to slowly haul the rope and gear up over the course of an hour.
In the 1936 Eiger north face disaster, Willy Angerer was already dead at this stage; Toni Kurz was the climber still alive and hauling the rope.
Full reasoning
In the 1936 Eiger north face disaster, only Toni Kurz was still alive during the final rescue attempt; Willy Angerer had already died.
Wikipedia’s summary of the event explains that Angerer fell and was killed, and that only Kurz survived, hanging on the rope and later trying to reach rescuers. That directly contradicts the post’s sentence saying “Willy managed to ... haul the rope,” which assigns Kurz’s actions to the already-dead Angerer.
This appears to be a name mix-up in the post, but it is still factually incorrect as written.
1 source
- 1936 Eiger climbing disaster - Wikipedia
Angerer also fell and was killed... Only Kurz survived the avalanche, hanging on the rope with his dead comrades.